i am really excited about getting to go see my sister and grandparents in nv.
i will be going with just my 1 1/2 yr old.
my g-parents were never jw's and my sister was never baptised and just kind of rides the fence.. the issue i am having is my mom lives right by them.
"Then again, she wouldn't likely bring anything up with everyone else around anyways." That's good. She will behave around the family, but they are probably all aware that she hasn't been a g-mother to your daughter. Is she embarrassed about that? Too bad she can't see how destructive that religion is.
"I guess the big thing is I don't want her even around my baby..." If that is really what you think then examine why and decide if it's worth the ruckus it could result in.
i hope someone opens a new secret watchtower website with all the pages scanned monthly.
wouldn't that be a hoot?
i forget nowadays - when should the dubs expect that january shipment?
Well - the New Secret Watchtower should arrive pretty soon.....and we'll be here ready to make it honest.
Clam-- LOL that was good.
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http://news.mywebpal.com/partners/680/public/news842622.html cable truck hits kingdom hall .
email this story to a friend.
LOL LOL LOL "I'm sure they, the cable company, was there to install the playboy channel. It helps the BOE to interrogate (sp) young ones about what exactly they did or did not do during heavy petting sessions. Visual images make more of an impression than simply asking leading, emberassing questions."--erynw
Good one. Hopefully a JC was in there meeting to discuss the next round of interrogations to ferret out those guilty of thought crimes.
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http://news.mywebpal.com/partners/680/public/news842622.html cable truck hits kingdom hall .
email this story to a friend.
"Which one of you guys did this? Any 'postates near Rome, Georgia?"
They would use a gas tanker truck.
JK!! Watchtower if you're watching and use this quote to demonstrate how evil this site is, you'll be taking it out of context. (paranoid schmucks)
http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=topnews&storyid=2007-10-04t095213z_01_seo157840_rtrukoc_0_us-korea-summit-peace.xml&src=nl_usmorningdigest.
i mean the damned war ended 54 years ago.
my dad served in that war.
have you ever had an std?.
have you ever tried to commit suicide?.
have you ever had an abortion?.
These are all too funny! "Do you have any religious affiliatiation?" there's the one I wouldn't answer, well only "protestant".
From the other side I've asked, "Are you hearing voices?"-----"Yes they tell me I'm a horrible person."------"How have you been coping with them?"----"I take a bunch of ativan. If I don't have any ativan I drink Jack Daniels."------"Does that help?"--------"No, but then I don't give a sh*t what the voices say." LOL
anyone who is following my threads knows that i post most everything about my .
wife's loyalty to the wts and the fade i am doing.
i don't post much about my mother.. if you did catch it, i told her several months ago that i had stepped aside as an elder.. she had asked if it was a personal problem, then was it a problem with the boe.. i told her that it was a problem with the organization itself.
Otwo-- provide her with reassurance, plain and simple.
Nothing you could say will have more impact than reassuring her that your love and concern for her will never change. Having legitmate reasons for fading away from the organization do not, and should have nothing to do with that, and I am sure from all you've said they do not. Anything that could interfere with that relationship, we know, is destructive. But it will take time for her to get to that realization.
Say little unless she asks, and recognize the denial "he's still a good witness" is a defense mechanism. That's why the reassurance is so important. AND let her talk and really listen to what she says and process it. There is no more effective way to help anyone than to make them feel heard. Use the phrase, "what I hear you saying is...." and then reflect her thoughts back being careful not to add anything, then just continue listening b/c she will likely keep expanding on it. If not, just sit and reflect on that thought and give her the space to do the same. Hope that helps you. Be patient, it may take a while.
well, that's where this idiot tells my friend i am getting my information.
so when did "apostates" rate a whole class of their own?
i have never heard about this before.. this idiot is a jw wannabe.
History speaks for itself. (that's what I'd say)
it's starting to become harder and harder to hang out with witnesses.
all their talk about how evil the world is, etc.
i was at a gathering last night, and this older couple was their talking about how their granddaughter came back because she got a taste of how the world was, her so-called friends were freeloading off her and stealing her stuff.
I'm with you Brent, "Most people do not have to deal with JW friends after they leave because they quickly find out they were never friends in the first place." It's good advice too to develop an independent support system before leaving. I was raised "in the world", and knew that what was said about worldly people was not true of them all, and not true of my family. It was easy for me to fade, and gradually my old family and friends saw that I was no longer 'under the spell' of the wts.
It's hard to believe that only 6 wks. ago or so, a witness spotted me and snagged me before I could get away. We talked for about a 1/2 hr. He gave me a stack of new literature and told me about the "exciting changes" coming from the org., but other than the "koolaid watchtower"s he wasn't specific. I was considering going back, and asking my husband to go with me. But I came to the internet first, bought CoC-- which is a whole separate thread, and came here and found out that it wasn't just me. The circumstances, personalities and locations differ, but the stories are surprisingly similar otherwise. It's outta control from the top on down.
Turns out my husband had been reading Watch the Tower and Freeminds for about the past 5 yrs. I had NO IDEA. He says he mentioned it to me once and I pointedly told him to never mention THAT again, and so nice guy that he is, he never brought it up to me again. That cult-like thinking still had it's hold. My husband was keeping up all along and wanted to tell me about the news of the org. We've talked A LOT in the past weeks. He's so glad I'm untangling.
As for the witness fellow that snagged me into a conversation. He's a victim just like we all were. I don't think I could ever say anything about the truth of the truth. Knowing how frightening they are conditioned to be of such talk.
here's a couple of mine;.
"eleanor rigby, waits at the window wearing a face she keeps in a jar by the door" eleanor rigby - thebeatles.. "there's a hole in my soul, you can see it im my face it's a real big place" feel - robbie williams.
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Oompa you're a Parrot Head? I love that song too, Come Monday.
"We can go hiking on Tuesday, with you, I'd walk anywhere."
If we weren't all crazy, we'd all be insane....that one fits here too.
